Zoe Kravitz — Zoë Kravitz on Life, Death, and the Matrix

So, what's your take? Bluetooth does not work.

100% disagree.

What?

I mean, Bluetooth does work.

It doesn't work. Do you know what the definition of work is?

What?

It means it works 100% of the time.

That's true. But it

Think hold on. Think about

Think about the amount of times that you have tried to like sign onto a Bluetooth thing and you have to forget the network. You have to remember the thing, you have to do the thing, you have to turn it on. Like, that's not working and it's ruining important moments. Imagine the amount of times that you're like with someone, you're on a date, you're trying to set a vibe, and then you have to forget the network on a date, you're about to put in the moves, and then you have to forget the network. You're in the car, you have to pull the car over to play a song. That's not working.

It works a little bit.

Okay. So, if they're like, "Here, like, here's a car, like, buy it." It works a little bit.

No, I wouldn't like that. I can agree with you that the technology has not yet been perfected.

It is still pink in the middle. Put it back in the oven.

It's medium rare. No, it's medium rare.

It is pink in the middle. They got they got super stoked. Some guy was like, "Dude, check this out. This is great." Yeah, Mr. Bluetooth. They were like, "This is great. Let's put it out." He's like, "Well, it only works like 40% of the time." They're like, "We don't care. Back in the oven."

I mean, I'm rarely— I want to talk about uh your acting versus directing career.

Okay.

You've directed a film.

I did.

I saw it.

Thank you.

Blinked twice. Loved it.

Thank you.

Thought it was great.

Thank you.

About to go see a film that you're in tonight.

Yes.

It seems like I'll love it based on the trailer.

It's a vibe for sure.

Yeah. It's a vibe. How how are you thinking about your life as a as an artist in general? For me, art is very much about the need to express or explore something. Like it's kind of like an itch you have to scratch and that kind of um leads you to what it wants to be, you know, like when I start writing or whether it's music or a script or something, it's just because like there's something I need to work out and figure out. And I think for me, I you know, I love acting, but for a really long time, it felt a little bit limiting cuz I think I don't know. I like storytelling as a as a whole was what I'm really into. And I think specifically as a woman when you like film they tell you to be an actress which is great but I think I didn't even think about the fact that I could be more than that or be something else.

So I yeah I really really love directing and writing. I like seeing things through too. I I think there's something about having an idea and seeing it through to to the end that's different than acting.

Would you consider yourself and this is not an assault. Are you a control freak?

Yes. Total control freak. Yes.

So you you to you you get the pleasure out of being in total control.

Yeah. I really well, I yeah, I do. I like not tell it's not about telling people what to do, but I do like I like multitasking and I like stress. I like seeing what happens creatively in stressful situations.

Oh, you like constraints.

I like pressure.

You like pressure. I operate that way as well.

Yeah.

Like

No matter how long I have to study for the test, I ain't studying until the night before.

Why do we do that?

I don't know. We're sick.

Yeah. Well, I think the thing about art too is like the more it's not something that should be controlled and you think you know what something is and I guess you have to to to start, but the thing about art is it will always be something. It has to show you what it wants to be and the more you try and control it, the less interesting it is.

Yeah. Like whenever I produce a project, I usually get in my mind I'm like 80% of the way there and then I go, "All right, let's do it. Let's finish it. It will finish itself when we go out. It will finish itself. Well, all the holes will be filled."

Yeah. And it will be something that you couldn't imagine. And that's where the magic is.

What did it say? Something important.

I don't know. You can never hear that guy.

Are you afraid of flying?

Yes.

Are you terrified?

Like every time you get on an airplane, you're like, "It's going down. It's going down."

I don't want to think it's going down, but I do think about the fact that it could go down. Yeah. The most insane thing happened to me the other day. I was going on an airplane to Puerto Rico.

Yeah.

We were in the middle of the ocean. I saw it on the little map. Yeah.

And the pilot goes, "Hey, we have an engine issue. The check." He literally said the check engine light is on.

Okay.

So, we're going to pull over to Atlanta.

You're going to pull over?

He had to turn the plane from the middle of the ocean to Atlanta. And I go, "All right." It's like 20 minutes away, maybe.

Yeah.

An hour and a half.

Okay.

So, we're driving the plane.

I love driving the plane.

We're driving the plane for an hour and a half with the check engine light on. And the whole time I'm like, "Oh, all right."

Is it bumpy? Is it bumpy?

It's not bumpy. It's pretty calm. And we get on the ground. They check the check engine light. The guy gets back on. He goes, "Just a check engine light, guys. Nothing's wrong with that engine. Going to head over to Puerto Rico now." And the whole time I'm like, I don't believe you.

You don't?

No. I'm just like I'm I'm like, you've already ruined the vibe. Like I don't trust that this plane's going to go to Puerto Rico.

Okay, I have a question. When you get on a plane and it's an old plane, do you feel better than when it's a new plane? I go back and forth.

I like a new plane.

Okay.

I do too. And then when I get on an old plane, I'm like, but this has been this is this one works.

It's a road.

We know this. Yeah, this one works. I like that a lot. Plain food also was another take I have.

What about plain food?

There's a version of plain food that is okay where it's like, give me a PB&J. Oh, give me a turkey sandwich. Don't give me like a duck in like a cream sauce.

This is nuts.

You don't like the gourmet meal?

I'm just like, it's so unnecessarily gross.

I got made fun of recently cuz I went on a trip and uh everyone's like, "How was the flight?" I go, "Honestly, Sebass was pretty good." And everyone goes, "What? You did that?"

It was good. I'm not kidding. I think it was Jean George.

But it's not. You like

I liked it.

Okay.

You want the kids menu?

Well, I do because a PB&J a PB&J on a plane is just as good as a PB&J not on a plane. It's not like it's good for being on a plane. Like, okay, if you were in a Jean George restaurant and you got that exact meal,

the sea bass.

The sea bass. Would you be like, "Oh, yeah. Like, this is great. You pay whatever you pay." Would you be totally happy with it or would or is it good for being on a plane?

It was pretty good for me. I mean, it was good for being on a plane.

Okay. So, if you were in the restaurant, what would you say?

I I see what you're saying.

So, what kind of music have you been listening to lately?

I like Justin Bieber's new album a lot.

Fire.

I've been listening to In Rainbows a lot. That's like always a go-to for me.

Oh, the Radiohead.

Yeah, Radiohead.

I'm an old guy sometimes. It's really sometimes it's scary when the train is super empty cuz you know that something bad happened on it.

Something is lying in the shadows.

Anything bad happened?

Nope. We're just lucky.

Oh my god. Okay.

What is that noise?

I don't know. It's nuts. If we were on a plane, I'd be freaking out.

Do you think it's going to be like this